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Ch. 14 Page 415

December 5th, 2009, 10:10 am

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Author's Comments:

Vye Brante, December 5th, 2009, 5:23 am

More lazy perspective! Woo! The angle and perspective don't really make sense in that first panel. But when do they ever in Just Gotta? Ah well. I'm still trying to make myself do backgrounds. I'm still practicing and seeing what works and whatnot anyway. Baby steps, Vye, baby steps.

Not much else to say about this page. I can't ever seem to draw Kas properly from behind but that doesn't stop me from trying. At least he got a bit of page time. Probably will be the last for this chapter so . . .

I think I was rushing while drawing this page. Looking at it now . . . it kinda looks odd in parts. Also normal for me I suppose. Makes it match the weird backgrounds. Heh.

Guess that's all. I am going to sleep. Get your contest entries to me and visit the forums! Also, while it'll be a while yet, we're sorta coming up on the end of the chapter so be thinking about gags!

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User's Comments:

Toon Link, December 5th, 2009, 10:25 am

Panels 3 and 4 go for the win!!!!!!!!!!!Also, when are you going to tell us who won the contest???

Chelleromo, December 5th, 2009, 1:29 pm

"You're not going to faint again, are you?" Lol @ Hazel. It's like she's gonna kidnap Evur or something, the way she's watching him.

Also: Who needs "perspective"? Bah, I say, Bah!

Silent Magician (Guest), December 5th, 2009, 2:24 pm


Not problems! DX

Vye Brante, December 5th, 2009, 2:24 pm

Toon Link: Well, were the deadline is the end of December, it'll probably be sometime in January that the winners are announced.

Glad you liked those panels!

Chelleromo: Ha ha, she would like to have her very own Pr. Evur. And yes, there is no room for perspective in Just Gotta!

Silent Magician: Yeah. It'd be too easy without them though. Heh.

the being, December 5th, 2009, 3:04 pm

hah. hazel would probably faint once she gets evur tied up or something. xD
The perspectives are good to me, Vye.
And nice of you to throw in kas.
"You're not going to faint again, are you?" quote of the day.
...oh, wait, "My brother has a fan club?" that's funny. hahah. El.

spudwalt (Guest), December 5th, 2009, 3:38 pm

Oh, Hazel. You and your amusing obsession...

BlackCatz, December 5th, 2009, 7:34 pm

I love the sentence, "my brother has a fan club?"
I even said THAT about mine in the dark ages (aka high school) ^^;

amjam, December 5th, 2009, 9:33 pm


After the uncomfortable-ness of the last page, this was a good laugh.

"I might!" and "My brother has a fan club?" - xD! I wonder if El would like a button too, haha?

crapcarp, December 6th, 2009, 4:02 pm

Umm, on second thought... I said that this webcomic was good but that was before I found the bad webcomics wiki site. Not that your webcomic is on there but after reading some reviews on there I saw that it's only a matter of time before this is put on there. So, I'd like to give some suggestions to ensure this webcomic doesn't suffer that fate.

Art: I'm just being brutally honest here, but your art sucks. Go to and check out the art tutorials. My art was a just a tad worse than yours before I went there, but after a few of those tuts and my art DRAMATICALLY improved. I'd like to see the same thing happen for yours.

Story: I know you want to have a few questions in our minds about the story to keep us interested, but I think you've gone WAY overboard here. Before giving us new questions you need to answer some, for example, who are the numans exactly and why should I care? So they fight humans and have elementals powers whopdedo, but what is their role in this plot? Shouldn't we focus on Hileree and Spyro a little before we get into anything else?

Well, I hope these suggestions help. Like I said, I like this webcomic and all, but it's got major problems. I don't mean to hurt your feelings or anything, I just want this webcomic to improve is all.

amjam, December 6th, 2009, 4:59 pm

Y'know, if bunches of folks like us keep coming back and enjoy it, and the author enjoys writing it, I don't see why it needs to be any "better" ;) Everyone knows they can improve, be it a webcomic or anything in life, but if the ride's fun already, don't invent rain to drag content passengers down. Maybe this just isn't the right comic for you, if you can't like it based on the opinions of a website you stumbled upon. Nobody's perfect, and if we're having fun, they don't have to be!

Vye Brante, December 6th, 2009, 5:29 pm

the being: Tie him up? That'd be creepy . . . Heh, let's hope it's beyond her I guess.

If the perspective looks good, it's probably because it's not clear enough to show what it actually is so it doesn't make sense the way I wanted it to. (If that very sentence made sense.) For what I was going for, it was off. But glad it didn't take away for you though.

Heh, yay for funny quotes!

spudwalt: She wouldn't be Hazel without it!

BlackCatz: Ha ha, I think I've seen you talk about that, if I remember right. Secret fan clubs are the best kind! I hear.

amjam: Yeah, we need some comedy now and then I guess.

Heh, yeah, El probably would like a button.

And thank you for coming to the comics defense! I know it is not the best comic out there, but am glad that you and the others can find at least some enjoyment from it.

crapcarp: . . . *Sigh* . . .

Look, I understand you mean well. I just wish that if you were going to give me pointers, you wouldn't touch on things that I myself complain about nonstop.

The art? Yes. I know it's crap. What am I doing about it? I'm continuing to practice. I have taken art classes in the past and have "How to Draw Manga" books and whatnot. I know there are awesome tutorials out that that I should make use of. Am I using any of this? No. Why? Because for some reason, beyond even my own understanding, I want to learn how to do this properly myself. I like doing things my way I guess. Where does that leave us? With my crappy art that I complain about every other page. (Pratically. I would like to complain about it more but then my fans get all defensive . . .)

And yes, I also already know that for you guys, the story has too many unknowns. That's why I'm trying to reveal some more stuff now. Ven and Zen weren't even going to appear fully in the story until much later on when Hillaree herself learns about the imbalance. But I brought them in early so I could start introducing things. (That's just an example for you.) And I can't say anything about it yet, but there are going to be some major revelations very soon.

And why care about the numans? Besides the fact that Hillaree is one and there are some taking over her home world . . . Yeah, can't think of reasons besides those. I'll work on that. (Unless those are good enough.)

I know this comic is far from perfect. I am always saying so. I know there are a lot of things I need to work on. I just wish that suggestions like yours would touch on things that aren't obvious to me. If there are problems that I don't know about, then yes, I'd like to know so I can fix them. But I leave my comments for a reason. I make my audio commentaries for a reason. If I am saying I know the problem is there, there's no reason to point it out to me.

I am plugging along at my own pace and learning what works and what doesn't. I know not everyone is going to love my work, and many of them because of the weaknesses we talked about. Quite frankly, I'm okay with it. As long as there are people other there being entertained by what I am able to make, I'm happy. And even though I'm in many ways, doing this all wrong, I am still learning a lot and the comic is always improving. Just maybe not at the pace people, or I, would like.

I take no offense to your suggestions and hope that I don't offend either. I am always open to criticism. Just wish I could get something that I didn't already know.

Chelleromo, December 6th, 2009, 6:53 pm

Okay, here I go again... Listen Vye, if you want some actual ADVICE, don't use "How to Draw-" anything. They are absolutely useless. Most published webcomic artists will tell you to avoid them like the plague. "How to"'s just give you a picture and tell you to copy it. Few actually go into the depth needed to actually UNDERSTAND anatomy and the like.

Actually, I LOVE the fact that you are trying to improve on your own. It is so easy to see the improvement. Your art has improved by leaps and bounds since page one and I'm pretty sure we readers LOVE that.

As for your storytelling, I think your pace is great. It's important to keep some mystique. I'm certain I wouldn't enjoy your comic as much if I wasn't wondering "Oooh! What's gonna happen next?" every time I left the site. (I also wouldn't visit every day, and would only click the link every MWF.)

So, yeah, crapcrap has points but obviously doesn't know how to give criticism. If he actually wanted you to improve, he should've said things like: "Practice hands", "This or that looks slightly off", etc, etc. People who say: "Your art is crap, go...." aren't helping in the least. So, whatever. Don't listen to him, keep doing what you do, because WE like it. Your webcomic does NOT have major problems.

Finally, for the love of everything on the internet, do NOT go off of the Bad Webcomic Wiki. That's like going to Encyclopedia Dramatica (NSFW, btw if you've never been there) for unbiased news. The Bad Webcomic Wiki and ED are just festering stinkholes for trolls to gather. Personally, I think they're HILARIOUS places to waste time, but you should NOT base everything you're doing off their standards. Yes, they do bring up valid points about certain webcomics, but I don't watch everything I do in case I don't match their standards. So just keep doing what you're doing. I love what you're doing, so keep on doing it, even if it's just for the rest of us who don't have a problem with what you're doing.


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